[CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

Christoph Maser wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, den 04.11.2009, 23:04 +0100 schrieb Les Mikesell:
>> m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:
>>>>> People don't even come to me with
>>>>> windows questions anymore because I'm so out of touch with
>>>>> it. Only so many brain cells and I'd rather spend them on
>>>>> more valuable things(networking, storage, virtualization,
>>>>> HA, scalability etc)
>>>> Well, there's always java, in spite of the damage Red Hat has done to it
>>>> by shipping a broken imitation for years.  Maybe hardware has gotten to
>>>> the point where the overhead doesn't matter.
>>>>
>>> No. It matters. And I don't care what version of java, I really dislike
>>> it, because *it's* broken; or, rather, it failed at what it was supposed
>>> to do: a) solve the software backlog,
>> You can't do that with companies shipping broken or non-standard
>> implementations.  There's not much reason to continue that now.
> 
> I work in a java shop and I really thik you both are wrong. We do some
> pretty amazing things with it and openjdk in centos (wich I think you
> were relating to) is working quite well for us.

This wasn't a complaint about openjdk.  But how long has that been included in 
RHEL/Centos and how many years was something else called java shipped that 
didn't actually run java programs?  And how difficult was it to get a properly 
packaged working version of java installed if/when you understood why your 
programs didn't run? I believe java has been set back enormously because of that.

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   Les Mikesell
    lesmikesell at gmail.com