m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: > >>> People don't even come to me with >>> windows questions anymore because I'm so out of touch with >>> it. Only so many brain cells and I'd rather spend them on >>> more valuable things(networking, storage, virtualization, >>> HA, scalability etc) >> Well, there's always java, in spite of the damage Red Hat has done to it >> by shipping a broken imitation for years. Maybe hardware has gotten to >> the point where the overhead doesn't matter. >> > No. It matters. And I don't care what version of java, I really dislike > it, because *it's* broken; or, rather, it failed at what it was supposed > to do: a) solve the software backlog, You can't do that with companies shipping broken or non-standard implementations. There's not much reason to continue that now. > and b) it supposedly guaranteed no > null pointer references, and useful error messages. Ummm, programmers are clever enough to work around guarantees in most languages. > It did not solve the backlog, and after the huuuge stack traces and > usually unhelpful error messages.... And it eats memory, including the Sun > implementation. It's just Pascal w/ p-code, revived. Memory is cheap - thats the last thing to consider these days. Being able to farm out arbitrary chunks of processing across platforms is priceless... But you do have give up the unix-y idea that it is quick and cheap to start a new process. Look at stuff like OpenNMS with distributed monitors, or Hudson as a distributed build/test platform, or lucene/solr, or the pentaho analysis tools. How else can you do any of those things? -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com