> Les Mikesell wrote: > >> already know how to use them. Imagine if every free OS distribution had >> included a broken copy of bash and perl and maybe even C and internally >> modified their code so things still mostly worked. > > Were you around back in the late 90s when redhat shipped a broken > gcc? :) Even today redhat seems to have the biggest mind share and perhaps That was 2.96, I think? <snip> > And even if tomcat was included it's not exactly the easiest thing to > use out of the box, even after almost 7 years of using tomcat I still > find regular old apache 10x easier to manage, so I lean towards more > basic solutions when they present themselves. Yeah - tomcat eats memory, and that's what I was thinking of when I mentioned java errors resulting in 50, 100, 200 lines of useless stack trace. <snip> mark