On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, Monte Milanuk wrote: > I know everyone says RAID is not substitute for a proper backup > solution... but this machine *is* the backup for the rest of the > network. At what point should one draw the line for backing up? What > is there out there that is still reasonably economical for backing up > say, a RAID 1 setup of two 1TB drives, or a RAID 5 setup of three drives > that size? Tape? Looks to be just about out-stripped in size by cheap > hard drives, at least in anything even remotely in my price range. NAS > - which is probably going to have its own version of RAID? Perhaps skip using the 13GB drive since it will probably fail relatively soon. Snag another larger drive and do mirroring between the two. Investigate "Amanda", "Backuppc", or "Duplicity" for doing your backups from the other boxes. This way if one drive fails you have the other still working until you replace it and resync. The last two options I listed do de-duping of the disk blocks so you're not duplicating the same block across backups for multiple machines. If you have lots of the same files on the various machines you're backing up this will save you loads of space (for instance, the same OS on lots of machines). If it were me, I'd skip the whole LVM scheme for the house LAN. Use real backups schemes and change their configs so that your backups fit within your available space. Later on if you run out you can move things around a bit and go with either LVM or with larger mirrored drives. Drives are cheap. -- Curt Mills, WE7U hacker at fluke dot com Senior Methods Engineer/SysAdmin "Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown "Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U "The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!" Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, any contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of any digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is included in any attachment to this email.