On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Drew Weaver wrote: >> Just relax and wait, this is a _volunteer_ based project. Want a release >> date? Go pay for RHEL. >> >> >> This response is just as annoying as the request for an update. >> >> -- j > +1 > > Annoying and rude. > > ---- > This might be why the Linux community as a whole gets such a bad rap. > > -Drew This whole thread and these answers are uncalled for. All of them, except for the original above at the top. We know that CentOS releases are 4 weeks, plus or minus a few, after the release of the upstream OS. Questions of "When it will it be released" are fruitless when, on the CentOS main site, they have been clearly answered. 4 weeks, give or take a few, with updates on Twitter. If they are late because YOU think they are, what are you doing to help them? The testers have their hands full, and now they must handle flame wars, and be discouraged by people lobbing fireballs at them because their free OS hasn't been released "on time", according to your liking. Might I remind everyone that 5.4 was released, in part, a WEEK after it came out...remember the security updates? Those were released because they didn't affect the functionality of the OS. So in effect, you do have some of it on your system already! Please reconsider what all of you are saying here. I want it out just as much as you do...and with some simple investigation, one can find out that it's due out in 4 weeks or afterwards, and a simple "tweet" or message that we are two weeks behind or something should be fine. I don't care for progress reports, graphs to show how things are coming along. That takes time away from doing the important work. And I have gotten those updates fine on Twitter. Now, could they be better advertised? Is that flawless? No, but nothing is. But with simple one or two-line messages that "we're on track", or "give us a few more weeks", it should be more than sufficient for you. And I've seen that on their Twitter updates page. Not perfect, but still an excellent way to see that they're working on it. Daily/weekly bugging is only going to make people mad, cause friction, and a frustrated response like on top which will, obviously, offend some people. But if you want it THAT bad, switch to RHEL, or another Linux flavor, or Windows. The principal of "you get what you pay for" gets blown out of the water with Linux, and by the CentOS team. We have no right to be frustrated if it is not on a schedule we want it to be on, and certainly not if we aren't helping, or even contributing to the slowdown of the release data because of squabbles like this. Sure, I wanted it yesterday. And if I REALLY wanted it yesterday, I'd have paid for RHEL entitlements instead. Until then, your security fixes are out (except for a few late ones), and 5.4 is syncing to the mirrors. On time. Thanks, CentOS development team...for those who are very grateful for what you do. I'm patiently waiting to see the fine work you've done! ******************************************************************************* Gilbert Sebenste ******** (My opinions only!) ****** *******************************************************************************