On Fri, 16 Oct 2009, Les Mikesell wrote: > R P Herrold wrote: >> and 'best-efforts' is a SLA concept -- if an SLA is needed, >> you already know the answer > It's also the sort of thing people in a community try to do > for each other without needing legal terms for enforcement. You raise a new argument, an orthogonal strawman, as is your wont, switching to 'try to do' -- I'll close the old one first. 'best efforts' means 'stay at the post until properly relieved' That is not generally compatible with a 'when it is right' ship criteria. 'best efforts' is certainly not something compatible for third-parties to demand in the context of a 'social voluntary' effort using non-paid staffing and absent privity. 'best efforts' may in fact be freely given, but to foster or further an 'expectation mentality' is to deny reality and to set up false expectations. Turning to the lesser standard of 'try to do', we are back to the circumstance of the a third party projecting their expectations into an objective reality, talking endlessly about it but doing nothing, and then being disappointed when the desired outcome does not appear Sorry: we don't have a magic pink pony for such people here. -- Russ herrold