On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Joseph L. Casale <JCasale at activenetwerx.com> wrote: >>which is about as useful as Microsoft Windows support... is it broken? >>"reinstall windows".... > > FFS, this attitude amongst opensource guys that MS is the devil and are > trying to murder your family or sabotage your life is such BS. > > Take the Tin Foil Hat off and settle down, MS support is easily on par w/ > or *the* best support there is. i don't believe the statement lambastes MS because "is about as useful" means about the same. Remember that windows integration website ( don't remember the name but related to nLite and ryanvm) shutdown by Microsoft - it made a great deal of news because they had scripts to take out annoyances such as balloons popping up in the taskbar. MS lawyers had them disbanded. MS Tech Support asked customers to wipe and reinstall, but when the "Wireless Networks Found" balloon didn't pop up, they knew some things had been changed in the windows installation because they just had the customer wipe and reinstall. The point i believe the original poster was making is that "wipe-n-reinstall" is very very very common everywhere even at MS. i have been running NT since 3.0? / 3.1 and wondered why anything but NT ever came out. i don't think MS is evil but i have wasted too much time swapping legitimate MS Office CDs when there were multiple MS Office versions installed. It takes way too much time to install a windows system from scratch, configure how you want it, and then install all the apps on top and then all the updates and then all the updates to the apps ad nauseam. Oh, you want to image that harddrive now? Well you get 3 attempts with sysprep and then you start all over - no thanks. There is no comparison to 'yum -y update' -- i have wasted way too much of my life updating software, hunting down product keys (the COA on the pc case is hidden under the lock or on a misplaced cd). In fact, depending on which method you get to the 2008R2 activation screen it will not take your key. Dealing with proprietary phone tech support regarding software bugs that i could fix myself if i had the code - it is demeaning. In that world, you rarely have an opportunity to talk to the programmer, let alone a good tech. Filing a bug report in Bugzilla and getting a response from one of the programmers directly responsible - that has happened to me in open source. Never happened once as a Win32 developer and user. There really is no long lasting great tech support except open source along with the skill and intelligence we have ourselves and shared over the internet. i am more independent that way. i have more freedom that way. i have more time. > > I maintain both Linux/Unix and Windows machines, and since high school days > I have been using PSS and there is nothing like it. They have have *ALWAYS* > fixed everything but one issue I have had, where that one issue I resolved > before them. > > Spreading your FUD reflects on _you_ not MS. > > I love Linux (and prefer to toil in this forest) but don't preach that anti-ms > crap, its utter malarkey. > > Geesh... > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >