MHR wrote: > but I just don't like to do it. 30 systems? Yoik! Out of ~300 .. > As for moving from 4 to 5, that's not a trivial thing at all - and > it's not an "upgrade" per se unless you have LOTS of faith in the > process. I always reinstall across releases, and that's a royal pain > (though usually worth it for the new features, like a newer GNOME and > all that goes with it). Funny thing is for me the hardest part is getting the downtime to do the work, the OS reinstall is easy, the apps already support it and cfengine automatically configures the systems with everything they need. I can re-install a system and get the apps re-installed in ~30 minutes, but it's a real headache for the apps guys to take the apps down and/or move customers off those systems to other systems. And I'm not in *that* big of a hurry I have other things I am working on of course.. I came across a system a few days ago that had an uptime of over 1000 days...here it is [root at us-mon001 ~]# uptime 19:22:02 up 1012 days, 4:24, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.20, 0.26 [root at us-mon001 ~]# cat /etc/redhat-release Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS release 4 (Nahant Update 1) Part of me doesn't want to re-install it..(I have no immediate plans to..) You know your missing a kernel update or two when your uptime gets over 3 years. > BTW, certain specific upgrades would be really nice. For one thing, > Google's Chrome browser is now available for Linux, but you have to > have a newer version of (I think it was) gtk that's not available on > RH/C 5 at all - yet. Chrome..google. While I'm sure it's a nice browser I don't trust google with my information.. > Ah, well, patience in this particular arena pays off - we get the best > support and solid reliability for free, so a little wait, or even a > long one, is worth it in my book. Me too.. nate