On 12/8/2010 8:21 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Tuesday, December 07, 2010 06:29:44 pm Les Mikesell wrote: >> And if you can't get the simple version right, how can you hope to >> do it right with something wildly more complicated? > > Alright, pray tell how I, a desktop Linux user,... Let's not drag the desktop user into this discussion, too. Long experience has shown that when Joe User tries to do Thing X and is prevented, then a popup appears that in effect says "run this command to make this popup go away and allow Thing X to happen", THEY WILL RUN THE COMMAND. It's so reliable an effect that you could make a killing if any bookie were stupid enough to let you bet on it. I have a one-word reply pre-prepared for anyone who disagrees: botnet. Please, let's keep this thread centered on professionally-managed servers, the focus of CentOS, and thus hopefully this list. There is at least hope in that world that something like SELinux could actually be applied successfully.