Les Mikesell wrote: > On 12/14/2010 3:38 PM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: >> >>> If you don't like java's verbosity, you might like groovy. You can, >>> for >> >> OO in general, and java in particular, IMO, is trying to enforce good >> coding standards by compiler... except, of course, that it doesn't work. >> >>> example, print items from a database in about 3 lines. >> >> Really? I can do that in one: >> sqlplus (or mysql, or whatever) >> select * from mytable; >> >> Or from C, using, say, Pro*C: >> Exec SQL >> select .... >> End-Exec >> >> mark, being difficult > > I think besides being difficult you are missing the point - you can't do > anything else with those values from a sql server's own monitor tool - > and the way you do even that will vary with the sql server flavor. With > groovy you can use any jdbc interface the same way and hand off the > values to any other java jars or code you have around - maybe use > jfreereport to graph them with a few more lines, etc. I suppose you > could do that in C if you wanted to spend the rest of your life writing > it. Sure I can, but then, I know a good bit of sql as a language (bleah!). Why "the rest of my life"? Through the nineties, a *lot* of folks wrote a *lot* of C with embedded SQL as it's called. But I think the real point of this thread is that perl isn't bad, bad programmers (sorry, "developers") will write bad code in any language. mark