yes, it's OT but just in case folks here know someone who might be interested, i'm writing and publishing a course to introduce people to the joys of linux kernel programming: http://www.crashcourse.ca/introduction-linux-kernel-programming/introduction-linux-kernel-programming and, no, it's not free -- six months worth of course will cost you all of $39 (CAD), but the first four lessons are free so you can see what you're getting into and decide whether you think it's worth it. this is the only mention i'll make of that here. if you want to keep up with new developments, feel free to follow me on twitter. rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Top-notch, inexpensive online Linux/OSS/kernel courses: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ========================================================================