I think Whit you have raised some deeper questions maybe about probability, sod's law, the uncertanty principle, karma, etc etc...Maybe a venn diagram covering luck and preparedness is in order, who knows, we/I am digressing.... I would like to point out that at home I'm pretty sure I'm jinxed; my ubuntu server has decided X ins't going to work any more, nor the sound (may be related) and the raid is dying, all on the same day?!?!?! -- Regards, James. http://www.jamesbensley.co.cc/ There are 10 kinds of people in the world; Those who understand Vigesimal, and 9 others...?