On 05/29/2010 12:53 AM, R P Herrold wrote: > The information relayed through the day in IRC and on the main > mailing list reflected what was known as it was known, what > was likely, and how it was being approached. > > In back control channels, the CentOS team was studying the > matter, testing retrievals, passing updates to public facing > parts of the group, and updating findings and possible fixes > (and thus eta to convergences). This was available and passed > along to public facing team members as the earth rotated > through the day. Let's consider it an unplanned trial shift > in approach toward more openness on matters which have > historically been less visible, and see how it worked out OK, I'm curious. What is this "main mailing list"? And what are the "public facing parts of the group" and "public facing team members"? The way you describe it, it sounds as though you feel that passing information around within the clique counts as "openness". I hope that's not what you intended to imply. I'll confess I didn't look on IRC. The problem I have with IRC is that I have to sit on there all day or risk missing what might be a significant part of the discussion. I read this mailing list as a newsgroup on gmane.org, and there I can look back at the entire discussion at any time. There's no equivalent I know of for that on IRC. > There were at most handful of 'non-insider' posters today > (Heller, Roth, Cox, Nichols, Charm) and I think three relevant > bugs, which bugs should all be addressed by now. I guess I just don't get it. A handful of non-insiders post about an issue that's affecting all i386 users, and that's a problem?? The most significant "insider" post I saw here blamed the issue on mirror lag and basically told anyone who had a problem with that to go away. That leaves the impression that the problem is expected to correct itself in due time and that no other action is needed. I really hope you did not take offense at my pointing out evidence that this appeared to be something other than mirror lag. -- Bob Nichols "NOSPAM" is really part of my email address. Do NOT delete it.