At Sat, 29 May 2010 14:57:18 -0500 CentOS mailing list <centos at centos.org> wrote: > > > > > ---Executing: recode > > On May 29, 2010, at 10:01 AM, Robert Nichols wrote: > > OK, I'm curious. What is this "main mailing list"? And what are > > the "public facing parts of the group" and "public facing team > > members"? The way you describe it, it sounds as though you feel > > that passing information around within the clique counts as > > "openness". I hope that's not what you intended to imply. > > > > I'll confess I didn't look on IRC. The problem I have with IRC > > is that I have to sit on there all day or risk missing what might > > be a significant part of the discussion. I read this mailing > > list as a newsgroup on gmane.org, and there I can look back at > > the entire discussion at any time. There's no equivalent I know > > of for that on IRC. > > > FWIW, I *DID* go to IRC instead of the mailing list, and someone > there with a really condescending attitude treated me like an idiot for > not checking the mailing list first. I agree that there should be some > clearer definition on the official support website as to the first > point of contact for people trying to resolve these things in > near-realtime. I don't even bother with IRC -- it is close to useless over dial-up, since I cannot just sit there tieing up my (only) phone line. Sending an E-Mail to the mailing list is far easier -- I can send it out and then check back a few hours or a day later. It is not like not being able to update the two packages for a few hours or days was any sort of problem for me -- I just wanted to get the update done, eventually, presuming that the update represented some important bug or security fix. > > The fact the the IRC people tell users to go check the mailing list, > and mailing list people tell people to go check IRC sickens me. I > don´t mind having to use one or the other, but it should be more > clear. > > -- > ------------------------- > Jeffrey A. Gipson (RHCE) > T. (512) 827-8750 > ------------------------- > > > > This message contains data in an unrecognized format, image/jpeg, > which is being decoded and written to the file named "/home/heller/Mail/Attachments/red_hat_cert_eng_logo-clr-email.jpg". > If you do not want this data, you probably should delete that file. > Wrote file /home/heller/Mail/Attachments/red_hat_cert_eng_logo-clr-email.jpg > > > > (via Mail.app) > > > > > This message contains data in an unrecognized format, application/pkcs7-signature, > which is being decoded and written to the file named "/home/heller/Mail/Attachments/215-smime.p7s". > If you do not want this data, you probably should delete that file. > Wrote file /home/heller/Mail/Attachments/215-smime.p7s > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Deepwoods Software -- Download the Model Railroad System http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Binaries for Linux and MS-Windows heller at deepsoft.com -- http://www.deepsoft.com/ModelRailroadSystem/