Benjamin Franz wrote: > On 11/30/2010 10:42 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: >> >> It boils down to balancing 'it breaks my app that I can't or won't fix' >> against 'you've been pwned!' > > Actually, it boils down to 'what causes more total costs to the > business'. Right now, in my experience, that is SELinux. Break ins to my <snip> > Security in not an end unto itself. It exists to support the business > making money. If a cost saving measure is costing the business more than Not just making money, says the guy who's works for a federal contractor. It exists, in the IT world, to keep the systems working, and not corrupted. > it is saving it, it is *not* a good idea no matter how technically > superior it is. There's a story on today's slashdot, about how the terrorists have won - for *very* little money, they've cause countries and governments, esp. the US gov't, to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on prevention. > > This in a very real sense is similar to the 'how much resources should > measures to prevent shoplifting be given' in a retail store. If the > anti-shoplifting measures are costing *more* than the shoplifting you > are preventing - you have lost sight of the actual reason for > anti-shoplifting measures in the first place. Yup. Seen lots of companies do just that, or try to squeeze out the last dime... and spend dollars doing it. mark