On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:51:39 -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: [....] Redhat does not discuss release dates [....] Well, the beta is up : http://www.redhat.com/rhel/beta/ so the corporate experience on this list may be able now to make an educated guess (still an unofficial guess, of course, about the most likely length of time till the first full release a/o that of CentOS 6 -- but still of some use to those of us waiting eagerly ...]. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is.