On 9/27/10 7:31 AM, Dag Wieers wrote: > On Fri, 24 Sep 2010, Les Mikesell wrote: > >> On 9/24/2010 2:23 PM, Keith Roberts wrote: >>> >>> Well yes, it does work OK. The point being though it's an >>> old (stable) release of Eclipse, but nothing near the current >>> Eclipse 3.6.0 Helios release. >>> >>> I'm in the middle of moving now, but when the dust settles I >>> will put my 'Installing Eclipse Helios 3.6.0 for PHP >>> developers' on Centos 5.5 on my site. It covers Java, >>> Xdebug, PDT, necessary repos, and starting to use the PDT >>> plugin for debugging local and remote PHP scripts. I might >>> even throw in a few screencasts. But that's another story >>> getting OT now. >> >> My take on things is that java and a lot of other things are really >> intended to work with several versions concurrently available - and >> perhaps running concurrently, where RPM wants to only have one and even >> with alternatives can only make one the default. So any time you don't >> want the defaults, you have some design decisions to make. Still, I'm >> surprised that Sun and RH didn't make nice and have a publicly available >> RPM that puts things in RH-style places. > > As you probably know, Red Hat does have various java flavours and versions > that can coexist using RPM available from their RHN Extras/Supplementary > channel. I guess licensing is one reason why it is not public, although it > does give Red Hat some added value for Enterprises, I am sure :-) Yes, but it was odd that Debian/Ubuntu offered packaged Sun Java for everyone where RH only had it in the subscription updates. And even stranger that Sun's own RPM didn't follow RH standards. I suppose they'd rather have you run solaris, but making something difficult isn't the way to get people to like your products. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com