On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Brian Mathis <brian.mathis+centos at betteradmin.com> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 6:57 PM, R P Herrold <herrold at owlriver.com> wrote: >> On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> >>> OK guys. Why don't you fork the CentOS project and build your own??? >>> >>> Why don't ANYBODY fork CentOS project? What are you/they waiting for? >>> Whining is easy, build something on your own. >> >> Too strongly stated. I am aware of at least two private >> rebuild efforts that I have advised over the rough spots in >> the last 4 months. But those efforts have not sought to >> replicate CentOS, but rather to 'scratch an itch' with a >> different goal than CentOS goals of replicating a rebuild of >> the upstream sources, with needed trademark and branding >> alterations, seeking binary identical-ness with all that the >> upstream ships insofar as possible >> >> But re-producing CentOS through a fork is just not sensible, >> because CentOS is not just a pile of packages meeting some >> standard [it is also hard work to no obvious new good purpose] >> >> CentOS is also the mirror network; it is the mailing lists; it >> is the builders being willing to ignore the temptation to >> release a 'rough draft' at the expense of breaking the >> reputation (justified by past releases) to quiet perhaps ten >> people whining for something, anything, at the expense of >> potentially harming millions of installations >> >> There is a playpen for people who want the latest and greatest >> with a six month release cycle that use the RPM packaging >> system and the yum updater. But it not named CentOS >> >> -- Russ herrold > > > Russ, > > Appreciate your efforts, but let's make one thing clear: > > The SINGLE source of ALL the current community issues (or "whining" as > you put it) is: > ***LACK OF INFORMATION*** > ***LACK OF INFORMATION*** > ***LACK OF INFORMATION*** > about what is going on. > > No one cares if it's going to take another 3 months. > > All that is needed to stop the weekly explosions are some regular > updates about the process. Something like "Working on xyz package but > ran into this problem. Still have to look at packages abc and def" > would more than satisfy a vast majority of people complaining here. > It's mind boggling that the project just doesn't seem to understand > that. > > > // Brian Mathis > _______________________________________________ and prolong development even further.......... -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers SoftDux Website: http://www.SoftDux.com Technical Blog: http://Blog.SoftDux.com Office: 087 805 9573 Cell: 082 554 7532