Le 05/04/2011 02:24, Brian Mathis a écrit : > On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Rudi Ahlers<Rudi at softdux.com> wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Brian Mathis >> <brian.mathis+centos at betteradmin.com> wrote: >> >>> Rudi, >>> >>> Cut the crap. You're intentionally changing the context of the >>> discussion, so please stop posting. No one has "demanded" that the >>> Devs send an email every time they take a shi^H^H^H^H^H^H^H make a cup >>> of coffee, as you have said. In fact no one has "demanded" anything. >>> Requests, yes. A post once in a while with some real information >>> (other than "we're working on it") would be nice. >>> >>> Also I don't see any comments demanding anyone do anyone else's work >>> for them. Again, you have twisted the conversation to become more of >>> a flamefest by making things up that are not true. Not one post has >>> "demanded" anything. >>> >>> Everyone is here because they care about the project. That's what is >>> constantly missing in the replies by those who continue to browbeat >>> and deride anyone simply looking for information. It's a symptom of a >>> deeper problem that will only be made worse by that kind of treatment. >>> >>> // Brian Mathis >> Brian, since you take it so personal, you should cut the crap. And grow up. >> >> Have you actually followed, properly, what has been said the past few >> weeks about the last updates (i.e. 4.9 / 5.6& 6.0?) about people >> leaving CentOS cause other products are better and how the devs should >> step up to keep up with the rest of the world? >> >> I personally, as well as many others (looking at their comments) are >> more than happy to wait for the next release - exactly when it >> released. I rely on CentOS for one reason - it's stability and >> security. I don't want a half-ass-baked distro.And I frankly don't >> care what you think about it. If you don't like it, then move on. Get >> RedHat, or Novell or Debian, or whatever fits your needs. BUT PLEASE, >> stop putting extra pressure on the devs cause you have some personal >> vendetta against how quickly they release their updates. Surely, when >> you started using CentOS, you knew exactly what it was and what it's >> relationship was with it's upstream vendor. Now, due to their changes, >> CentOS updates gets delayed. Live with it, or get in touch with Red >> Hat and take it out on them. >> >> The last thing I want to see if CentOS coming to a grinding halt >> because the demand for half-tested-and-released-too-soon-releases and >> everyone want an update every 5 days have become too so great the devs >> can't get to doing their work properly anymore. > > I really have no way to respond to such a thorough misreading of what > I have said. I don't even know where to begin. > > For everything you claim I have said I have in fact said the exact > opposite. I have no idea where you get the idea of lumping me in with > those throwing a tizzy about the releases not being ready. > > The only thing I have said is that if we want these weekly threads to > stop there needs to be better communication. How that translates in > your head as me and everyone else "demanding" all sorts of things, > pressuring the project, or wanting premature releases is simply beyond > any ability of reasonable thought. > > > // Brian Mathis > > > P.S. I do take it very personally when someone mis-characterizes > something I have said. Brian, I agree with you and am amazed of the misinterpretation of what we say. I too am only asking for more regular short updates of what is going on with the project. I think it is something normal for a community project, and that can give trust in it. Alain -- ========================================================== Alain Péan - LPP/CNRS Administrateur Système/Réseau Laboratoire de Physique des Plasmas - UMR 7648 Observatoire de Saint-Maur 4, av de Neptune, Bat. A 94100 Saint-Maur des Fossés Tel : 01-45-11-42-39 - Fax : 01-48-89-44-33 ==========================================================