On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:40 PM, email builder <emailbuilder88 at yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> Sorry if this is somewhat naive, but I'm a little confused as to what the >> >> criteria is for that which will get upgraded automatically by yum and > what >> >> will not. >> >> >> >> I see in our logwatch messages from time to time that yum upgraded >> >> a bunch of stuff, but I also notice that yum will not upgrade other >> >> packages at all (easy example is clamav, but there are others). >> >> >> >> Can someone explain or point me to where I can read about the > distinction >> >> between what is and is not subjected to automatic upgrade? >> > >> > More info: yum-updatesd is running and I do not have yum-cron. > yum-updatesd >> > does a fine job from what I can tell, but I still cannot understand what >> > criteria it applies to know which packages get upgraded and which do not. >> (?) >> > >> > The yum-updatesd configuration file is ultra-simple, so that doesn't seem to >>be >> > where the update choice/distinction is being made. >> > >> > There seem to be people posting in various places that they prefer to use >> > yum-cron, but I have no problems with yum-updatesd and I suspect yum-cron >> > wouldn't address/answer my question anyway. >> > >> > Help? >> >> Yum-updatesd does not automatically install packages (unless you >> configure it to), it only notifies you of ones that need updating. If >> no one is manually doing it, and you don't have "do_update = yes" in >> /etc/yum/yum-updatesd.conf, then you have installed something else >> that is performing the updates automatically. > > It does look like updates are happening, but it's not clear to me by whom. > do_update is set to "no", but notification is by "dbus", so I assumed that > "dbus" is notifying another process to do the actual updates. Is there a way I > can track that down? > >> Are you sure the updates are actually getting installed, and it's not >> just noise in the log from yum-updatesd? > > Well, if I can take it at its word, updates *are* happening. Here is a snippet > I clipped out of a logwatch a few months ago: > > --------------------- yum Begin ------------------------ > > > Packages Updated: > php-dba - 5.1.6-27.el5_5.3.i386 > php - 5.1.6-27.el5_5.3.i386 > php-devel - 5.1.6-27.el5_5.3.i386 > php-cli - 5.1.6-27.el5_5.3.i386 > php-common - 5.1.6-27.el5_5.3.i386 > php-gd - 5.1.6-27.el5_5.3.i386 > php-pdo - 5.1.6-27.el5_5.3.i386 > php-mysql - 5.1.6-27.el5_5.3.i386 > > ---------------------- yum End ------------------------- > >> P.S. The yum log doesn't have the year in the timestamp, and if it's >> not active it might not get rotated by logrotate. This can cause >> false messages sent from logwatch about packages that were installed >> last year. > > Hmm, is there a known fix for this? Rotate the log file yourself once a year. You can check if you are seeing this bug by looking at the /var/log/yum.log last modified time. If it was yesterday, then I suppose the packages were installed. As far as your other questions, how does it determine what packages to update, I think you will find it's not actually doing any updating. I have not used yum-updatesd to auto-update packages myself, but I would think it would automatically install any updated package. // Brian Mathis