Its pretty funny how flaming any thread with Centos 6 in it can get. So the devs do/do not communicate, who cares. When Centos 6 does come out, many will say "O big daddy, thank you sooo much, I love you... " or something like that. And the old adage about "No one ever got fired for buying IBM" may hold true today but it should be re written as "When you buy IBM, people get laid off". Jesus, the prices for IBM and even Oracle gear these days, WTF... - aurf