Folks, it has been asked a few times: PLEASE STOP THE "6 UPDATE" THREAD now! Developers: please just stop responding to that thread. It's not necessary to defend yourselves over a certain point (that has long been reached). Non-devs: if you think you can make a valuable contribution to centos infrastructure/development, please move over to centos-devel and make your serious offer *kindly* there. Any one else: JUST STOP, thanks! I'm really tired of this. Ralph: please unsubscribe everyone who can't shut his mouth. Thanks. A lot of of less-vocal people will thank you. Kai