On Tue, 5 Apr 2011, Hendrik wrote: > Now is the time to change that. > > Maybe CentOS just needs a new leadership? Maybe its users need to realize that: 1. This entire thing is run by volunteers 2. This has been a very difficult release because of various apparent RedHat changes 3. Some releases were be faster---or slower--- than others 4. Centos 4.9, 5.6 and 6.0 hit at pretty much the same time 5. A properly configured firewall and the latest 5.5 patches, along with smart web browsing, indicates that there should be few if any security problems with C5.5 as it is now (sure, there are bugs, most of them local or DOS attacks, and I have yet to hear of one yet) 6. When it seems like they are close, another bug or issue(s) is/are found 7. I'm beta testing software done by volunteers and people are complaining about "when's the new release", when there are multiple issues evolving/changing externally that hamper our release. So with #7, I personally get why this has been "late", as defined by some users. But, as Karanbir and others have stated: there is no timeline, it's when we can get to it. Typically 4-8 weeks, but this one has proven problematic. And again, more fingers in the honeypot can make things worse, especially when a release is trying to get pushed out the door. Now, Karanbir does realize that communication needed to be improved, and when there's new developments, he posts it now on Twitter. But I'd rather him solve the issues, than dealing with the repeated "um, hey guys, you're REALLY late now!". I'm sure they wanted it out the door two months ago. During a release is not when a project needs help. It's starting on the next one...thinking CentoS 5.7/6.1. Otherwise, some people really need to sit down and think if CentOS is what is needed, or RHEL. And as RedHat throws more monkey wrenches into their source, which could force anyone making a distro from RHEL harder and harder in the future, are you willing to wait 12-16 weeks for a new release? If not, head to RHEL in your next budget cycle, or something else. But having "been there, done that", the only thing I would have done differently with C5.6 is posted a few times "still have issues we're working on, no release date in sight yet", or words to that effect, and Karanbir is doing that now. Well, did; he said it should be syncing to the mirrors soon. Yay! Can't wait to upgrade. ******************************************************************************* Gilbert Sebenste ******** (My opinions only!) ****** *******************************************************************************