[CentOS] CentOSPlus kernel (Was: Centos 6 Update?)

Thu Apr 7 17:26:44 UTC 2011
Rob Kampen <rkampen at kampensonline.com>

Tom Bishop wrote:
> This is excellent information Akemi, provides opportunities for folks 
> to dig in and specific information that is needed and where to go to 
> learn more...Thanks! :)
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Akemi Yagi <amyagi at gmail.com 
> <mailto:amyagi at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     Changing the subject line for good ...
>     On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Lamar Owen <lowen at pari.edu
>     <mailto:lowen at pari.edu>> wrote:
>     > On Thursday, April 07, 2011 11:23:51 AM Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
>     >> AIUI: In previous releases, RH distributed source + patches.
>      Starting
>     >> 6.0 RH releases patched source.  This makes backing out a patch, or
>     >> backporting patches from future development in Fedora (e.g.)
>     far more
>     >> nightmarish than before.
>     >
>     > This one doesn't impact the CentOS core rebuild.  It would/could
>     impact CentOSPlus.
>     Yes, it _could_ affect the centosplus kernel. This point was addressed
>     early on when RHEL-6 was released back in Nov 2010. See:
>     http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=4586
>     Point 2 (note 12051) is the one that is relevant. I welcome any
>     feedback / suggestions for the proposed method I outlined there.
>     While you are there, look also at the issues described for Point 3
>     (note 12052). Anyone can help in there as well. :)
>     So far, "luckily" centosplus kernels are "ahead of" the distro kernel
>     in that they have been built and are available for testing (see note
>     12502).
This post has led me to lots of information about the CentOS build 
process and makes me offer the following comment:-/

PLEASE ALL - have a look around the wiki and bugs - there is heaps of 
information about the status of the various build processes and even how 
to do it yourself - at least from a getting started level - I'm sure 
once one gets into it there would be some questions, but just like here 
- if one shows what has been tried, and the specific problem 
encountered, and what attempts have been made to resolve the problem - 
then help would be available to assist you in the forward direction.

Rather than making a nuisance and noise on the lists and expecting 
digested sound bites to appease your thirst for information from the 
folk that do the work - go have a look.

It is readily apparent that the build process is very reliant upon 
having "all one's ducks in a row" and one minor version change in a 
dependent source file means the output will not be the binary match with 
the upstream provider that CentOS delivers. Thus the process gives new 
meaning to the word "iterative".

My thanks to all those doing the painstaking work of making it work 
right the first time - I for one, am not detail oriented enough to do 
this kind of work, and so I suspect are many of those on this list.
Please do not get discouraged by those who lash out on the various forum 
but accept this heart felt THANK YOU from a long time user that 
appreciates all that you do.

I see comments about not being able to rely upon CentOS for business use 
- I beg to differ, I use CentOS for my business and am very satisfied 
with the quality of the product.
There are certainly some business uses where the time-frame of the 
CentOS build process is a problem - if that is the case then there are 
alternatives - they do cost money.
Pay your money and make your choice - no money.......accept what is 
CentOS and see if there is somewhere you can contribute to a very 
informative and helpful infrastructure - preferably in a polite and 
positive manner.
Thanks for reading.
>     Akemi
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