[CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

Mon Apr 11 18:19:22 UTC 2011
Dag Wieers <dag at wieers.com>

On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Brunner, Brian T. wrote:

> centos-bounces at centos.org wrote:
>> On 4/11/2011 10:55 AM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
>>> centos-bounces at centos.org wrote:
>>>> The main support *I* need is timely updates and releases.
>>> This is the key indicator that says you want RHEL not CentOS.
>> That's only true if you think the CentOS team is incapable of matching
>> some definition of 'timely'.
> Proved to be so, with great pain for some.
> To take a relativistic approach, entities (people or corporations) who
> are uncomfortable with CentOS's notion of "timely" will be less so with
> RH's notion of "timely", since RHEL defines the product for which we're
> waiting. RH is the Time(0) of the process.
> Speed costs money, time costs money and/or patience.
> You must either shell out the money for RHEL, or you must shell out time
> for CentOS.

Considering you follow the "it's released when it's ready" mantra, what 
are you comfortable with ? A one month delay between upstream and CentOS ? 
Two months ? Three months (CentOS 5.6) ? Four months ? Five months ? Six 
months (CentOS 6.0) ? When it's ready ?

Regarding CentOS 5.6, all users using it should not have a problem if the 
security updates are 3 months behind ? Maybe in 12 months Karanbir has a 
kid, Johnny disappears again. Would four months be acceptable ? Maybe five 
months ?

No no, it's released when it's ready. Even if it takes 6 months and the 
next release is out before CentOS is ready ? 3 months is halfway through 
the release, so you're vulnerable to security problems 50% of the time.

If you graph the releases since 2005, you can see it's becoming longer and 
longer. It never took 3 months before. A new base release never took 5 


I have been ringing the alarm-bell 2 years ago (CentOS 4.8) and nothing 
has changed. But hey, don't let me spoil your dinner, there is no problem. 
It's free, so questioning things is out of order.


The comments I got both came from the CentOS team, so you know where you 
stand if you provide a critical voice. I no longer expect any change.

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