On Aug 26, 2011, at 8:37 AM, Always Learning wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 10:59 -0400, John Hinton wrote: > >> .... To me, the use of this includes directory is simply >> good practice for multiple reasons. On this list, teaching best >> 'standard' practices is a good idea. Who is going to think to tell >> someone to go look in /data/config/apache for a configuration two >> years from now when something breaks due to following non-standard >> practices? > > Unlike some other installations everything is documented, so everyone > knows. Keeping information a secret from other workers is not practised > here. > > Apache creates a default set-up. Default for those who need something > which 'works out of the box'. Apache then gives the creative person the > facilities to experiment and, as you illustrated, the ability to > minimise collateral disruption when something goes wrong when changing > files (like the mouse wheel button pasting copied text into unwanted > places). > > Everything in, for example /data, is entire operating system > independent. Simple. The operating system dependant parts of Apache are > in the /etc /usr and /var directories, so they can be updated with other > operating system revisions. Remember the /etc /usr /var directories are > operating system directories, so we keep non-operating system items out > of them. > > If I wanted to move everything to another operating system, for example > Solaris or BCD, everything in /data will work on the new operating > system without changes ! Just needs a few quick changes to the operating > system configuration files. Simple, Easy and Reliable. > > An English saying is: "Rules were made for the guidance of wise men but > for the obedience of fools". Naturally I am not implying, nor would I, > that anyone on this list are in the latter category. However I believe > that saying makes a valid point. > > Once upon a time people were killed for believing the world was not flat > and if one sailed far enough their ship would drop-off the edge of the > world. Blind and unthinking obedience and the intellectual inability to > question and experiment are not conducive to the successful development > and using of computers. > > Please note I do not teach on here. I've already got a large > workload :-) > > Best regards, ---- oy - no wonder you turn off selinux - you are determined to re-engineer things that were designed with logic and intent. Perhaps you should use some other non-redhat type of distribution (debian/ubuntu) to get a feel for the fact that there actually is intelligent ways to plan out configuration files and gasp, in /etc/ Craig