[CentOS] drop manitu.net

[m.roth at 5-cent.us]

Les Mikesell wrote:
> On 8/11/2011 8:09 AM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:
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>> 1. I'm not going to join this list, or any other, from multiple email
>> accounts
>
> So move them to gmail.  Price is right. End of problem.  If you don't

No. Not ever. I have no intention of using a service that will have
*years*, at least, of backups of all my mail, including stuff that was
hypothetically d/l and *deleted*.
>
>> Finally, you're missing the real issue: not how I can use different
>> email addresses, or run my own mailserver, but that I was hoping to
>> have a conversation with the CentOS mailing list admin about using
>> *anyone* else than manitu.net to block spam to the list. I mentioned
>> the problems I had a few years back emailing to a friend in Canada
>> through his then-local 'Net provider, because they were also using
>> manitu.net.
>
> That conversation would make sense if there were any spam blockers that
> cared about the collateral damage to unrelated hosts that happen to be

So, in your experience, there aren't *any*, they all block an entire range?

If so, why is that a valid method for blocking spam?

> in an IP range that they don't like.  I don't think you'll find any.
> And it has always been that way since the start of those businesses.
>
Yes, 15 years ago. I reiterate: it has been *completely* wrong for about
10 years.
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> Good luck with that...  I think you'll find it easier to send though
> some service that accepts authenticated smtp and fights that battle for
> you than to do it yourself.

Um, my email does.

      mark