On 8/11/2011 1:35 PM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: > >> Be pragmatic. Accept partial defeat. Get an alternative email >> arrangement and you may become more happier. > > NO. I WILL *NOT* allow the goddamned spammers to block me from the 'Net, > and I'm *not* willing to have them cost me my email, and go to somewhere > else; certainly not to someone's suggestion of yahoo (and they aren't > banned by manitu?) Nobody is blocking _you_. The spam services just provide a listing that lets the recipients choose if they want to accept what you send from questionable locations. >> Incidentally as you run your own mail via Bluehost are you actually >> affected, at the moment, by manitu because, presumably, you can send-out >> by BH ? > > You misunderstand: I pay them for hosting. They provide the mailserver; it > just comes from my domain on my virtual host on their servers. I don't run > a business, so I'm not going to pay a *lot* more than $6US/mo to run my > own mailserver.... Many/most ISP's provide an upstream SMTP relay as part of the service. If they do, configure it as your smart_host and it will fix the problem. If they don't, find some other relay service. Sending authenticated smtp though a free gmail account would work but they might check to see if the From: address matches the account (haven't tested that). The point is, that it will be easier to find a relay that someone trusts than to get the rest of the world to trust your random IP address in a block that anyone can get for $6/mo. Or, feel free to waste your time trying to change the world, but don't expect a lot of sympathy for the pain of beating your head on a wall, even if the wall doesn't belong there. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com