On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 13:41 -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Thursday, August 11, 2011 05:31:21 PM Kai Schaetzl wrote: > > *You* confused things. You mixed ISPs and hosting. You can't. > > An Internet Service Provider is an Internet Service Provider regardless of the type, bandwidth, or technology of the pipe provided, regardless of the number of IP addresses, and regardless of whether the hosts on their networks are primarily eyeballs (typical consumer at the end of a DSL, cable, or other dynamically assigned single IP address (in IPv4) connection) or content providers. A hosting provider will have its own ISP; our ISP's here do both hosting and eyeballs. Yeah, a single ISP can have co-lo cages, large transit and peering customers with multiple /24's each, as well as a consumer-grade dynamically-provisioned single-IP-per-customer eyeball net. > > No ISP is entirely an eyeball network (in NANOG list terminology). > > But this thread is getting entirely out of hand. ---- considering that it began as a rant which was inappropriately targeted, I would say that it was out of hand when it began. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.