Reindl Harald wrote: > it IS DIRTY because it does NOT remove obsoleted files > and yes i have seen environemnets where as example mysql did not > compile any longer as long all pieces of the old version were not > deleted manually Hardly ever do I type 'make install'. I stick to Base/Updates/Epel/Elrepo. Only if it's really necessary do I install other stuff. And I normally put quite some effort into it: I produce proper RPMs. > working on a modern OS beside the apckage-managment is just silly > you have no clear dependencies, you have no migration-path, you > have no clean rollback - you are doing a dirty job working so Well ... I'll tell the users of our cluster (which I happen to manage as an extra) that they cannot submit any jobs any longer because their stuff is not and cannot be installed as an RPM ...