Reinl, On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 15:28 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > why do you not tell this the idiot who is argumentating against kyes > and thinks using password-login is smart? I don't like your tone. I'm not sure if it's me or Bennett you are calling an idiot or both, but in any case you should mind your words and try to understand the argument others are making before shooting off your mouth. I merely responded to Bennett's inquiry why a 12 char password wouldn't be sufficiently strong. I believe Marko also made the point that it is always arbitrary where to draw the line as to what you consider strong/safe enough. I made my point why I believe using 9 to 12 character passwords is sufficiently secure for my purposes (I do not run a military facility). Now if you have an argument to make about that statement I'm very interested to hear it. On the other hand, if you start calling people idiots on a public channel because you think they do not understand what you are telling (where it's actually you who seems to be missing the point they are making) I don't consider you a suitable conversation partner. You should understand discussions on lists like these are made on arguments not insults. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research