On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net> wrote: > > > Am 09.12.2011 00:53, schrieb Cliff Pratt: >> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Am 08.12.2011 22:04, schrieb Les Mikesell: >>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Am 08.12.2011 21:08, schrieb Cliff Pratt: >>>>>> It's a good idea NOT to put stuff in /etc/crontab and NOT to change >>>>>> the existing members of /etc/cron.d. It is a good idea NOT to change >>>>>> root's crontab. Any of these may get overwritten by maintenance. >>>>> >>>>> /etc/crontab will NEVER get overwritten >>>>> to make it clear: NEVER EVER >>>>> >>>>> fedora did not overwrite any crontab from FC5 to F15 now because >>>>> rpm-packages mark such configurations so the new versions get installed >>>>> as .rpmnew >>>> >>>> Which means the changes those versions would like to have made won't >>>> take effect. So it is still best to avoid editing it yourself if you >>>> can put your local jobs in one of the other possible places. >>> >>> which means updates do not randomly change configurations and this >>> is good so since it is your job as admin to look if the rpmnew contains >>> anything which is interesting for you and if not let your working >>> configuration in peace >>> >> There should be no need to look at the .rpmnew files if you have done >> your job as admin properly. > > why are radnom people try to tell me how i have to do my job > without knowing anyting about how i work? > Touchy. > > no there is no need on the production machine becuase all preparing > happens on a dedicated environment with where local and caching repos > and build-environment is available and from where all TESTED updates > are deployed > Good for you. > > i do my job properly in making sure that no dumb change > of any upstream maintainer is touching a configuration > of relevant services > Good. > > so what will you tell me after > 200 ONLINE-dist-upgrades > in the last view years on all sort of servers? > I'd say that I been in the business for a long long time and I can still learn from other people. Cheers, Cliff