Ok, everything is fixed now. I spoke with the VPS providers; The jailed shell was removed from the webdev user (and the webmaster user?) and they reset the password. I logged into ssh as the webdev user to change the password and they told me off for trying and said I must do it through WHM/cPanel. I suspect there is some crazy arrangement here I don't know about and there is some link between those two accounts. When I tried (apparently wrongly) to change the webdev users password I still got "passwd: Authentication token manipulation error" but they said to leave it alone?! I'm just glad its over, thanks everyone for your support :D -- James. http://www.jamesbensley.co.cc/ There are 10 kinds of people in the world; Those who understand Vigesimal, and J others...?