I was out yesterday and came home to a pile of messages on this thread. It seems that we have all at least to some extent raised the 'ire' level of at least several of our CentOS Core Team. And, then it took me maybe an hour to read most of the thread... and I see several replies back from the Core Team members.... What I'm saying is this. This list has taken up the time of the Core team, perhaps as much as they would have had available to work on CentOS releases, after day jobs for all of yesterday. So, when will CentOS 5.6/6 be out? I would guess due to this barrage on the list, at least one day later than it was 2 days ago? Can we all please just chill? Or, if you're not happy with the performance of the CentOS team, perhaps select some other alternative. I for one don't want the Core team to be 'distracted', 'disgusted', 'mad', 'defensive' or have any other negative feelings about the project as they are trying to concentrate on the work at hand. These negatives do not provide the best working environment when it comes to anything computers. And from me, a big 'Thank You' again to the maturity level of the Core team and for your unwavering devotion to this work. Yes, I am anxious, but also yes, I have perfectly good operating systems right now and I'll just sit knowing the packages I 'personally want' are coming... or I can build them myself. Me? I'll happily wait. John Hinton