> I think 8 million unique machines disagree with you assessment. Who > knows, maybe all 8 million are wrong and the 10-20 people who are > discussing it on this list are right. Man, you could build a killer botnet if you wanted to!! (which strengthens your argument about the point about the package building/signing) Fair play to you, because it was 4-5 million when I last heard that argument 18 months ago. And let's not forget there is no right and wrong answer, only opinions. At the risk of going off-topic (which probably would be a good thing) is that number based on IP address or something else? The reason why I ask is that I create and breakdown a fair numbers of Xen paravirtual CentOS guests... but they live behind the same NAT'd firewall. Just wondering if they show up as the same or separate on your stats?