On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 14:10 -0500, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: > Um, don't use kerberos? Or postgresql? Or Sun's, er, Oracle's java? I > can't see that going over well. Sorry to let everyone down. I can't get too excited about these outstanding security patches. After 5 hours of trying, I can still can't panic, moan or even begin to criticise anyone about anything. Guess I am no good as a Centos critic. I'm just t-o-o biased towards good 'old Centos. All my Centos stuff is boring: web with Apache, MySQL, PHP, CSS, HTML and the inevitable PHPmyAdmin, plus mail with Exim. Rsync, SSH, Vbox and other 'boring' bits too. Would like to add Asterisk but lack the time at present because of experimenting with something called Arduino, too small to run Centos but able to control CCTV and send data over the wider Ethernet. A lot more development work is needed. Never liked running Java and don't. Occasionally run OO's text processing. Still run the 1993 version of Ami Pro 3.1 but that hasn't had a security patch ever! -- With best regards, Paul. England, EU.