I was looking at the marketing hype on those machines, and they look like they take a standard 3.5" SATA drive. OTOH, some pictures of the HP model drives for the microserver look like there's some type of handle on the front. I'm assuming that this is the "hard disk carrier" mentioned in the installation manual. Does the basic microserver ship with four of those drive carriers, or do they have to be purchased separately? Also, would anyone who has a CentOS-based microserver with a remote access card care to share any observations about that card, such as integration aspects and accessing it in a completely windows-free environment? Devin -- Women are meant to be loved, not to be understood. - Oscar Wilde