On 7/13/2011 2:36 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 7/13/2011 1:03 PM, R P Herrold wrote: >> I promised I would not get drawn into this thread, but ... >> >> This thread and its description of the experience gap is >> telling ... One camp wants a 'black box' tool that does >> _something_, so they can ignore what is happening 'under the >> covers' and move on to more interesting uses of the computer. >> And then there are the professionals. And this _is_ billed >> as a boring, trailing edge and stable, enterprise operating >> system, after all >> >> But my use cases are related to a prodduction environment, >> maintaining several hundred zone files, with lots of adds, >> changes, and deletes. The s-c-bind GUI tool was useless, >> compared to TUI edits (certain legacy systems) and scripts to >> do the backups, accuracy audit, and creation of all files >> including the PTR record files > So, aren't computer programs supposed to be able to deal with > complicated cases, or just not free computer programs? Or is the input > syntax just too weird? While s-c-bind may not have been the right > answer, it just seems odd as a missing piece in the distribution and > epel-provided packages. Almost as odd as not having a network-aware > authentication mechanism working as a server out of the box on your > initial install - as though it would be unusual to have more than one > computer and want those initial users to be able to log into the others > you'd add later. > I would have to guess that UpStream decided it was not to be. They most likely had very good reasons for this. I 'barely' looked at it as it could not do what I need to do and that was some years back. Is/Was it capable of doing IPV6? That would be a good reason to put it to bed... given IPV6 will likely become widespread during the lifespan of CentOS 6. Various SPF/SenderID/DomainKeys things also ride on bind these days. It could be that UpStream decided that was a good reason to put it to bed? Either way, CentOS is a nearly exact clone of UpStream, so really you need to go complain at UpStream, not on this list. CentOS has exactly matched their goal of providing the same packages available under UpStream. There is no point to complaining here. -- John Hinton 877-777-1407 ext 502 http://www.ew3d.com Comprehensive Online Solutions