CentOS has a clear mission. It's the first paragraph on the centos.org home page: CentOS is an Enterprise-class Linux Distribution derived from sources freely provided to the public by a prominent North American Enterprise Linux vendor. CentOS conforms fully with the upstream vendors redistribution policy and aims to be 100% binary compatible. (CentOS mainly changes packages to remove upstream vendor branding and artwork.) CentOS is free. Discussions about the packages and utilities that are or aren't included in CentOS (the recent discussion of system-config-bind comes to mind, but it's not the only example) should re-read the CentOS mission. Anyone wanting change in that regard should, imo, purchase a license from the prominent North American Enterprise Linux vendor and provide feedback as a paying customer. Said vendor may or may not heed those suggestions, but that is the only effective way to change the CentOS utility/package list. Honestly, we could all -- every single last one of us -- agree that $PACKAGE belongs in the core CentOS distribution, but until $LARGE_VENDOR agrees, we're just shouting in a vacuum. -- Paul Heinlein <> heinlein at madboa.com <> http://www.madboa.com/