Just a thought If the I386 (or i686, never could figure out why the name change) disk doesn't quite fit on the DVD+, and needs a DVD-, this might put some folks at an inconvenience. I wonder if the difference between fitting and not fitting is small enough, so that some amount of pruning might make it fit on the DVD+R image. Some ways to prune could be: a) Create two versions of the DVD, one with all the non-ideographic languages included, and one with the ideographic languares and a subset of the alphabet languages (English, German, French, ...) b) Find some less used but large package which presumes internet access. It could be downloaded with YUM c) Tackle the code bloat (oh yah, sure) David