On Sun, 20 Mar 2011, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > There are significant components of the upstream 5.6 release which are > stuck behind the CentOS 5.6 release process, but are now incorporated > in EPEL 5 components. Sad that -- that the dependent partial Red Hat adjunct project is not compatible with people not using Red Hat's product The unpleasantness of reading continual criticism, from those who will not do the minimal local rebuilds, to use the packages from a project not affiliated with the CentOS project, has pretty effectively driven the CentOS core developers away from this mailing list Congratulations Niko, I notice you did out post your 'helpful criticism' to which I respond, on the EPEL list on how to do the workaround EPEL's policies of not shipping packages competing with Red Hat's enterprise product. Perhaps they would welcome it (probably not, as they consciously DO NOT COMPETE with the parent product) CentOS has an ethic of delivering a product with certain quality expectations and testing before it is released (rather than inflicting a partially baked release and then streaming out curative fixes) If a person doesn't like CentOS's pace and attention to shipping durable and 'correct' releases or with different features (as with EPEL), or want packages faster than CentOS' rate, PLEASE encourage them to either learn to show some minimal self-reliance in building, or to not use CentOS as a base my $ 0.02 -- Russ herrold