On Mon, 16 May 2011, Johnny Hughes wrote: > It will be released when it is released, if you don't like it then leave. Before I leave this list let me take you back about 7 years to the Whitebox mailinglist. You may not remember that Whitebox had a list of issues of its own, no timely updates, no community effort, lack of good communication. It was mostly a one-man-effort. And the people on that list who were not pleased, included Johnny and Karanbir. And it's striking (and ironic) how similar the discussions went 7 years ago. Johnny said: [WBEL-users] WBEL Vs Centos ? :-S http://beau.org/pipermail/whitebox-users/2004-December/004761.html "If timely updates are not a key factor for you, then WBEL is a great distro. If timely updates are the most important thing you consider about the distro you want, then WBEL might not be a fit for you. That is all I have ever said ... and I have never said it meanly." or: [WBEL-users] WBEL Vs Centos ? :-S http://beau.org/pipermail/whitebox-users/2004-December/004740.html "I just think people should not have the expectation the WBEL is community operated, it is not. It's NOT like debian or gentoo where others can get involved. I know, I tried really hard to do so many times. Karanbir said: [WBEL-users] WBEL ...dead? http://beau.org/pipermail/whitebox-users/2004-December/004684.html "Be a lil difficult to sell that to the IT Manager / CTO : Hang tight dude, its comming. Anytime now." or: [WBEL-users] WBEL ...dead? http://beau.org/pipermail/whitebox-users/2004-December/004709.html "Why ? the other RHEL recompiles dont have this 'its coming, hang on' attitude do they ? If there is a security issue out there, you can put in a fairly good idea as to when its possible to deploy with them. Whats the scene with WBEL ?" The only difference I see is that back then Whitebox had only a fraction of users, and even less using it for critical mission, while nowadays people rely even more on timely security updates and releases coming from CentOS. And people expect to help and contribute to the process to make that happen. Which, contrary to what is stated now, was an essential part in the start and growth of the CentOS project. Anyay, goodbye and thanks for all the fish ! -- -- dag wieers, dag at wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- dagit linux solutions, info at dagit.net, http://dagit.net/ [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors]