When all of you mean to stop wasting our time bickering among yourself? If there was ANY chance ANY of you would change it's mind then I would be willing to endure senseless flame war. Since that is not likely to happen in next 100 years, I ask you nicely to finish this thread with "we agree to disagree" policy. Thank you. -- Ljubomir Ljubojevic (Love is in the Air) PL Computers Serbia, Europe Google is the Mother, Google is the Father, and traceroute is your trusty Spiderman... StarOS, Mikrotik and CentOS/RHEL/Linux consultant