I put this page together just so I won't spam the board anymore begging for help..lol http://bobhoffman.com/vmissue.html This shows a working effort of bonded eths, bridged into a vm, and a few other things. The only missing thing is something on the host that ends up putting the VM internet connection into some kind of limbo. Whether it is hardware related, bug related, libvirt nat related, I don't know. I will only post here on this issue again if it ever gets solved. At this point the server is a no go and getting shelved until I can find a tech that knows this stuff and can fix it. right now: unsolvable. I may just put some websites on the host computer until I can find a reliable way of keeping the virtual guest connection 100% up. Hope this helps someone wanting to bridge or bond. bob