On Wednesday, January 11, 2012 12:06:31 PM Les Mikesell wrote: > I was thinking more of Ford getting people to forget about the Pinto - > which I think they have done fairly successfully although it may just > have to do with aging memory. Let's see, that was around 1980. > Maybe I'll try Fedora again in 30 years. 'Unsafe at any speed' Still not a great analogy, though, since the Pinto (and the Corvair) were oriented towards the normal user; Fedora is more of a 'concept car' thing. SELinux and kin are much like seatbelts; they can save your life in a crash, but people tend to worry about the annoyances and the corner cases like that of being trapped underwater (the pressure on the door is a bigger problem than a stuck seatbelt, as Mythbusters demonstrated to good effect....). And seatbelt latches have gotten better.....