Robert Spangler <mlists at zoominternet.net> wrote: >> How is this possible? If it is possible what am I missing or not understanding? Thnx. << Lamar Owen nailed it in his post: renaming a file means updating its directory entry and hence requires write permission on the directory, not the file - which you have as a result of the "other" permissions on the directory: drwxrwxrwx 7 root root 4096 Mar 10 13:35 temp If you want the full story, I have an article on my web site (part of a magazine series I wrote, years ago) which explains permissions in detail: http://www.lesbell.com.au/Home.nsf/web/Controlling+Access+to+Files?OpenDocument (Other articles are at http://www.lesbell.com.au/Home.nsf/Linux?OpenView) Best, --- Les Bell [http://www.lesbell.com.au] Tel: +61 2 9451 1144