On 09/10/12 4:39 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > Where are all those people who use proprietary software that > uses proprietary file formats going to go when the company they have > been depending on decides to abandon their customers. when that happens, the proprietary formats should die with the company that created them. anyways, we're dealing with a very specific situation here, the DVD Forum, which was created by the electronics companies that make the players, and the media companies that sell the DVDs, has refused to allow an open source player even after DeCSS proved out futile the media copy protection is. If you buy a movie on DVD, you can't even make an m4v copy to watch on your iphone many linux users are quite adamant about only running open source code on their systems. -- john r pierce N 37, W 122 santa cruz ca mid-left coast