On 05/12/13 20:02, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Ned Slider <ned at unixmail.co.uk> wrote: > >> It's not difficult to prevent >> outgoing spam, > > The rest of the world begs to differ... If it were easy to stop spam > there wouldn't be any spam. > No, the rest of the world mostly just don't care. It's not difficult for an ISP/provider to block outgoing spam. Many ISPs manage to run clean operations and stay off blacklists. Do you think that's just luck? >> As you've found out, twice now, it's highly effective and gets people's >> attention. > > No, it is just annoying, and as you can see, the problem continues. > It might be annoying for him. It's not particularly annoying for me or the other millions of people who were being bombarded with the spam his servers are constantly spewing out. The problem is his servers are spewing spam. That is the problem that continues and that is the problem that needs to be addressed. Mark's situation is merely the symptom. Hostmonster obviously have no real interest in addressing it otherwise it wouldn't still be an ongoing issue. So as I said, he is irrelevant - he's just collateral damage in a much bigger battle.