Ned Slider wrote: > On 05/12/13 20:02, Les Mikesell wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Ned Slider <ned at unixmail.co.uk> wrote: <snip> > No, the rest of the world mostly just don't care. It's not difficult for > an ISP/provider to block outgoing spam. Many ISPs manage to run clean > operations and stay off blacklists. Do you think that's just luck? Really? Name three. <snip> >> No, it is just annoying, and as you can see, the problem continues. > > It might be annoying for him. It's not particularly annoying for me or > the other millions of people who were being bombarded with the spam his > servers are constantly spewing out. > > The problem is his servers are spewing spam. That is the problem that > continues and that is the problem that needs to be addressed. Mark's > situation is merely the symptom. > > Hostmonster obviously have no real interest in addressing it otherwise > it wouldn't still be an ongoing issue. So as I said, he is irrelevant - > he's just collateral damage in a much bigger battle. Ok, you've made an assumption and an assertion based on that: you assert that hostmonster, with its millions of domains (I asked tech support, that's what they told me) is "spewing" out spam. Prove that assertion. Esp. since I get blocked, on and off, for a day or two, and then sometimes not for a week, and sometimes not for a month. My take, from this, is that it is *not* "spewing out spam", but rather that some sleazebag sets up shop, or someone gets infected, sends it out, they finally find it and shut them down. So, justify your assertion with counter-evidence. mark