On 12/5/2013 6:52 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > So cpu's without vmx are not as ancient as they might appear. true, I always forget about the low end economy version processors as I tend to buy within a couple notches of the top, rather than the bottom of whatever generation, figuring that gets me more useful lifetime from my systems. so yeah, you will never be able to virtualize any 64bit guest with a non-VT-x processor, and many newer hypervisors won't even run at all as it requires far more emulation to run even 32bit guests on the non-VT-x processors. -- john r pierce 37N 122W somewhere on the middle of the left coast